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Parents of lost babies and potential of all kinds: come here to share the technicolour, the vividness, the despair, the heart-broken-open, the compassion we learn for others, having been through this mess — and see it reflected back at you, acknowledged and understood.

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ttc | pregnancy | birth after loss > TTC'ers

I love the weekly threads - they are a good way to keep in touch with everyone, but I know likewise that there are distinct aspects to trying after loss and pregnancy after loss. I also know that for some of us (myself included) who have been trying unsuccessfully for awhile that skimming through pregnancy updates can be pinchey and hurtful, particularly at certain times of the month.

So, I wanted to go ahead and ask - how're you doing? What's going on with you? How long have you been trying? What are you doing? If you've been trying awhile, what's the plan now? Will you be doing any testing or monitoring? Are you starting a new protocol?

Let's chat.
January 22, 2011 | Unregistered Commentereliza
Hi Eliza, thanks for starting this thread. I have just started TTC so I don't have much to share. As far as I know I don't have any specific fertility issues, so my biggest concern at this point is "advanced maternal age"--I will turn 40 next month. I had a very frank discussion with my OB that ended with me asking, "if I were a celebrity, with unlimited funds, what would I do?" She thought about it for a minute and said that if I were the celebrity I'd probably go straight to IVF. But then she went on to assure me that she has "lots" of patients who have healthy babies in their early 40s and there's no reason to think I can't be one of them. So we agreed to try for 6 months and then re-evaluate. So I'm very scared, but hoping it doesn't get to that point.
January 22, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJill S.
Hi Jill!

Are you doing anything like charting or using OPKs or anything at this point?
January 22, 2011 | Unregistered Commentereliza
I started charting for the first time midway through this cycle. So far temps are all over the place--I typically don't sleep very well & have been advised that can affect it. No OPKs. (I had to look up what that was, actually!) My CM changes are very obvious (TMI, maybe?) so in the past I've just relied on that.
January 22, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJill S.
As long as you get at least three hours of sleep, your temps are reliable. After a time you will begin to see your own patterns. For me, I can see some difference when I don't sleep well, but the shift is still usually pretty clear. It can take a cycle or two to really see your pattern. It's good that you have clear cervical fluid to go by; that helps!
January 22, 2011 | Unregistered Commentereliza
Hey Eliza.. can't thank you enough for starting this thread.. if enough people are interested maybe we can do a weekly update....
I have been on a roller coaster and haven't been here in awhile...
Looooong story short- I went to an RE earlier in the month hoping to get my wonky/late OV figured out and ended up with an answer as to what caused Cullen's death/stillbirth.
Turns out I have APS- antiphospholipid antibody syndrome.. it is a blood clotting disorder where my body creates an immune response agains the growing baby and essentially cuts off blood and oxygen. It was fucking miserable to hear that my body literally cut Cullen off. It explains my 'devastating' (RE's words) obstetrical history- HELLP with #1 then 2 more small babies (probably IUGR), followed by 2 very early miscarriages and then culminating in Cullen's death. I had been tested twice after his birth and came back negative both times.. BUT the RE only trusts this labwork when it is run from a specific and specialized lab in TN- so he sent it there and I got the call that I was positive at 7pm on a Wed. night.

I will have the disease for the rest of my life and my highest risk times (for the baby) are of course pregnancy. I have to take a baby aspirin daily for life, and at the very fist sign f a positive pg test I have to begin twice daily heparin injections which will continue through the entire pregnancy and then for a few months afterwards. It will then just be a waiting game to see if I ever throw a clot.
I got the first month supply of heparin this week and have injection training next week. I am also going to visit a hematologist just to have all the bases covered. There is a small school of thought that has women with APS start Heparin right after OV and then d/c it if they get AF, or continue if a BFP. I think my RE is more for waiting until a BFP but I will ask this week at my appt.

I guess what has thrown me in the end was that IF I had not taken it upon myself to go see the RE in the first place I never would have gotten the diagnosis, and according to him the chances of having another stillbirth would have been tremendously high. I could have found myself in a very fucked up place this time next year.... My OB and perinate were shocked (because I had tested negative) and the OB said she can't figure out how I have 3 living children...
Unfortunately I am now too high risk to be seen by her so I will be with the RE for 10 weeks of a new pregnancy and then bump over to the perinate for the remainder. There is a lot of scans (weekly) and testing that APS mammas have to have and many/most deliver very early because of the unpredictability of the disease. I am ready for this... I just wish I had a time machine to see how it all ends up. My heart aches for my son, and now I want to find myself pg with a 5th healthy child in a monitored but safe pregnancy...
January 22, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLeslie
Good luck Jill.. if you need advice on any of the fertility paraphernalia you have a lot of mammas to ask over here!

Eliza- what's up with you mamma.....
January 22, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLeslie
Yes, Eliza, thanks for starting this thread. I'm sure I belong here although the last 24 hours have had me in a temper-tantrum mood of "I WILL NEVER WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILD" because I am in so much deep, deep, deep dark grief over Otis's death.

But on regular days, I *do* want to be pregnant again, and I *do* want to bring my baby home...

I've got the good old "advanced maternal age" thing on my side (I just turned 39) and just did a full battery of tests with the RE. All normal with the exception of lowish progesterone, which my RE doesn't seem too eager to treat this cycle. Next cycle I'll go for a hysteroscopy (I did the HSG yesterday) if I'm not pregnant. I suppose if I did get pregnant this cycle we would do a progesterone test asap and supplement if we "caught" it in time.

I've got a few days to O, then stuck in the two week wait, which hasn't been a 2ww for me recently, more like a 9 day wait since my luteal phase has been super short since Otis's birth. I'm taking a b-complex this cycle, which is maybe supposed to help. Fingers crossed.
January 23, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSarah N.
xo Sarah....
January 23, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLeslie
Eliza,
Thanks for starting this. I think it is a great idea to separate the TTC posts from the pregnant posts. I love to keep up on everyone, but some days can't deal with those who have succeeded in conceiving when I am still hoping.

Sara N, I can SO identify with the flip flop feelings. I am so there with you.

Jill, I found charting made me crazy...only did it for a couple of months, but I couldn't tolerate the constant focus and the anxiety it brought me. I watch the calender, and my CM. It has given me sanity, but no pregnancy.

Leslie, I agree with your OB. It is amazing that you have living children who survived with untreated APS. Having a clearcut diagnosis and a treatable one is a blessing. Also I see it as a huge blessing that you have surviviors. In my eyes that brings hope that a successful pregnancy can happen for you again.

AFM, husband had said "we can try til your birthday" which is the end of Feb. Don't like the deadline much, but I understand it. I will be 38 and he will be 41. In a way it will be a relief to focus on my living children, and not worry about timing and a possible pregnancy every month. In the past we have never "tried" and have been blessed. We lost Helen in Sept 2009, have not used birth contol since and have not conceived. We have been monitoring CM, and dates, but no temps, OPKs or any other interventions.

Today is cycle day 32. No AF, nausea and vertigo since day 29, negative pregnancy tests on day 29 and 30. I probably tested too early. I have been afraid to test again. I don't want to see another negative. You all know how bad I want a BFP. I am terrified to see a negative. I am terrified every time I go to the bathroom that I will see blood. Waiting sucks. I just want to know. Planning to get a quantitative HCG tomorrow...I want a definate answer. Monday, monday...
January 23, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCheryl
Sarah N., I read some of your blog and I am so, so, so very sorry for everything that you are going through, and for the loss of your dear Otis. I wanted to write you an email--I have some thoughts about yoga, too--but can't find the words right now. Please know that I am thinking of you.

Leslie, I had never heard of APS, but yikes. I'm happy, though, that you have a diagnosis and especially that it's treatable. It seems like you have a good RE working for you. For me it makes a difference to know I have doctors who are "on my side" and want me to have a child.

Cheryl, fingers crossed for you, especially with the extra pressure of a "deadline" approaching. (And how I would love to be "only" 38 again!) I am on day 30. Feelilng some nausea, but I really don't feel pregnant and I don't plan on testing for a while if I can help myself.

Eliza, thanks for the info. Best wishes to everyone. This site is so helpful to me.
January 23, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJill S.
Eliza thank you for starting this thread - I have come out of the woodwork to join you all here; thank you.

Hello All, maybe I should start off with some background about me as this is my first time on these boards. Hubby and I were married almost 3 years ago and started TTC 2 years ago. I am almost 33 and my first pregnancy with Taggpole ended at 16 weeks (failure to progress) to miscarriage, we found this out within our first month of moving over seas.
It took another 3 months conceive Elizabeth and after a very bumpy start to the pregnancy, everything was great - until her birth. 39 weeks and 4 days, long, horrid story short, Elizabeth didn't survive more than 14 minutes and that was after an emergency c-section under GA. She was perfect, but she had lost too much blood either from placental abruption or vasa previa. That was 5 months ago.

My hormones have been all over the place, we found out due to postpartum thyroiditis, of which I am on the long low phase and just getting settled on meds to sort that out.
I am new to charting, temping, checking and OPKs, but have been doing so for the past 3 cycles - the last one only being 19 days long (LP being only 9 days). I am currently back to CD2.
I have started getting weekly acupuncture and am taking his herb tablets (Chinese Medicine), as well as Vit B complex - do I need to take the Vit B all the time?
I have been to RE and they just want my thyroid under control, it is pointless trying to assess hormones with that running amok - I go back for that assessment at the end of March.

Is there anything else I can do, anything I've over looked?
It goes without saying how very desperate I am for a child to actively mother.

Eliza, I have just found your blog and will nose dive in - your precious Gabriel's birthday and Elizabeth's are just 2 days apart.

Jill, if only we could just jump straight into IVF! If you can stick with the charting, I would and hopefully you'll not need all that information with you to the follow up OB appointment to re-evaluate everything - it'll all be moot and you'll be pregnant, fingers crossed.

Dear Leslie - how do we know we are ready for this? As Sarah is asking herself this right now. The battles rage and we do what we have to. I hope Sarah that emotions are calming down somewhat and you are gearing up for your getaway - fingers crossed for a light, bright and sunny 2WW.

Cheryl - I know how much those negatives kick you back down to the bottom again, almost as much as AF does and I hope that blood work gives you the BFP.
My fingers are crossed for everyone here.
January 23, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterElizabeth's Ma
Thank you for this. Now that my personal dead baby club (for the birth of our babies) is pretty much down to me and one other, the other threads are becoming hard to bear.

I'm now 37 and still testing negative on PDO13. This was my 13th cycle since Freddie's birth in April. That's a lot of no's.

I'm beginning to think it will just not happen now. I'm going to ask my gynae about some further investigation and clomid but dh and I had a stopping trying conversation last night. I'm just not able to keep dealing with it. And like Sarah, I want Freddie, not another baby.

I'm focusing on being pregnant, or not, but the end of this year. We can't try in March or April and I can't see why Feb will be any different to the last 9 months. Maybe some investigations in time for May will help.

I'm beginning to think my last two chances to have a final child are dead and at least one, if not both, of those are my fault. But we've had so much luck and maybe it is just greedy to want a rainbow.
January 24, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMerry
For all those trying to concieve and may be a bit older, I have heard a lot of good things on my various infertility blogs about Royal Jelly and bee pollen. It has helped many women over 40. It is natural but should not be taken by anyone who has a bee allergy. I am going to try it before this round of IVF. Hopefully it works. Just a thought. I don't know for sure if it works but I am willing to try.
January 24, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterKara
I'm still here, but feeling pretty discouraged.

This is cycle 7. I'm currently taking progesterone supplements, just in case there's a sliver of hope this month. My 7DPO numbers were low, so I started taking them at the end of last week, as soon as we got those results.

My doctor recommends clomid next cycle, but my inclination is to step back, so that's what we'll probably do. I may revisit after the spring, and take advantage of more interventions then.

I weakly tested yesterday afternoon, 10 dpo. Negative of course. It was stupid to test, and even though it was early and not FMU, I feel like I should just take that as my answer. If I wasn't doing these supplements, my period would have probably already started. I'll test again tomorrow (12DPO) and then I'll call my doctor's office to see if I can stop with the supplements.

It's just so fucking disheartening, and I know many of you can relate. Even when everything is apparently perfect, no luck. What do you even call this? Tertiary infertility? Post-loss infertility? Must be some kind of special phenomenon. My first two pregnancies were easily conceived (and you know, I was properly grateful for that luck). And then I was all out of luck. My daughter died of a fucking cord accident when I was eight months pregnant, and now another pregnancy seems completely impossible. The disappointment lessens each month (sort of, because I no longer really believe it's possible), but I just don't think I can take this much longer. Obviously I can't just MAKE IT HAPPEN, or I would've already. So all I can do is step back and try to, I don't know, find a new kind of peace with whatever this is. But it's terrible, and a new level of heartbreak.

The good news is that there are many beautiful things in my life. Truly, hugely, amazingly beautiful. So if I can pull myself off of this roller coaster with some version of myself intact, I think I will be okay.

Sorry, this turned into a much longer post than I intended. I'll be checking in over the next few days, but assuming I get the negative I expect, I'm going to try very hard to refocus my attention on more positive areas of my life.

Wishing luck and peace for all of you.
January 24, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterM
M. You just said everything I'm feeling. Much love.
January 24, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMerry
Hi All,
I am very, very, very grateful for this thread here tonight. For all of you, who know this roller coaster of up and down and all around all too well.

Today I am in better spirits than this weekend. Feeling hopeful in glimmers again, and thankfully (I suppose) wanting to be pregnant again, as well. Good thing I realized it before we missed this month's ovulation, I suppose.

Elizabeth's Mama - glad you've come out of hiding here - and to answer one question, I am taking the B-complex all month. I've heard not to do B6 all by itself because it can put the other B vitamins out of whack so a B-complex is a better balance. Who knows. I'll let you know what happens with my LP this month (it was 8 or 9 days last cycle.) I would check with your thyroid doctor to be sure there's no contraindication but I can't imagine there would be.

Kara, thank you for the tip on royal jelly. Going to look into that.

M - yes, like Merry said, you capture a lot of what I'm feeling as well. TTC is exhausting, exhausting work, and it often feels like it keeps me from experiencing some of the joy in other areas of my life.

I send you all so much love, and, like I opened with - I am beyond grateful for this thread and for the support of all you beautiful mamas.
January 24, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSarah N.
Just wanted to say hell again to everyone.. nothing new to add but I am so glad that a few of us have come together to talk in a thread where we can relate to one another's paths.

Ahhh EM- how will we ever know until we are there? Never truly I imagine- but when we do come to that point I imagine that all the angst and self doubt will dissolve and melt away into a new set of worries ;o)

Jill S thank you for your kind words
Kara- thank for that tip! I need to check into that!
Merry I hope good things will be on your horizon- and in the time that they are meant to come...
M what an amazing post.. I feel like you have just written out so many of my own thoughts- I just need to temper mine with some of the beautiful hope you have been able to find.
Sarah N- I am so happy to see the light coming back into your world today.. I had a feeling/hope that you would find way back onto this shit forsaken roller coaster. Unpredictable as it is- I think that in the end we all crave the high.. and we all know exactly which curve it lies ahed of.

love and light to everyone..
January 25, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLeslie
Thanks for your information Sarah - I'm still taking the Vit B complex tablets and will do throughout my cycle. I've just looked at what they do contain and there is some 15 different subsections of Vit B!! Here is to a nice lengthy LP for us both.
January 25, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterElizabeth's Ma
BFN at 12dpo. I guess I'll take these stupid supplements through day 14, just to be sure I gave it every possible chance.
January 25, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterM
M, that's exactly where I am. This mornings test, blasted thing, had a stupid diagonal line on it which is clearly nothing but is still an annoying line of some sort of thing, like a shadow or a crease. It is messing with my head. I know it is a fault line on the strip but it still means I have to keep going one more day, just so I can get another negative tomorrow.
January 25, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMerry
I am so sorry for all of those BFN's out there. I saw a good saying online not to long ago. It said "that everything will be okay in the end, and if it is not okay it is not the end." I try to remind myself of that a lot lately. I will be actually starting IVF in feb. just BCP's but it is still a start. It is kind of scary to be this close to the hope of a living child. I am excited for the chance to try and scared of what could happen. I miss Josie so much and cry everyday. I hope that I am ready for this. Has anyone else doubted their readiness to TTC again?
January 25, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterKara
So bummed for you M and Merry.

Thank you for that quote Kara.. I rather like that one.
Personally I never doubted my own readiness on TTC.. I wanted to try again sooner than most people I imagine. It took my body awhile to catch on... still a work in progress of course. I know it can seem like a loaded thought to some women- I hope you have found comfort in your decision.
xo
January 25, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLeslie
I just had a huge wave of doubt wash over me this week, Kara. Not just about TTC but about mothering a living child all together. Part of the reason I am of "advanced maternal age" is because it took me so long to be ready in the first place, to take the leap of faith that parenting requires...and then, bam - I got knocked down with Otis's death, and now I grapple with whether or not I can take that leap again. On my good days, I hear a resounding YES that of course I want to take the leap of faith and dive right in, on my bad days, I fear being knocked down again, and being even more permanently and irreversibly shattered (if that's possible.) Or that I'm just not ready, that the grief is still all too new and intense right now.

But then, of course, time is not on my side, so, pretty much, we're at a place where we don't have time to be indecisive, so we give it our best shot each month. In my heart of hearts, I can remember what it felt like the first time I saw Otis and how at that moment my heart was forever changed, and when I connect to what that love felt like at that moment, I know I simply MUST keep trying. Not that a new child will replace Otis or suddenly make it all better, but rather that I desperately want and need to feel that love for a child of mine again.


Merry, a diagonal line? That's just plain awful. I'm sorry. And M, I'm sorry too that you've got a bfn today. Sending you both love and comfort - I know how difficult the end of a cycle is when it doesn't have the result you were hoping for.

A question about progesterone: My RE agreed to a progesterone prescription for me to take to Maui with me; I'm trying to decide when/if to start it. She says most of her clients don't start until a positive hpt, but with a nine day luteal phase last month, I never even had a chance for a bfp...she says I can of course take it from 3dpo forward, and then stop if I get a negative at 12 dpo...but that the side effects might be really awful (bloating, moodiness, nausea, fatigue) Anyone have any recommendations?

Of course all this banks on me ovulating sometime soon....CD13 right now and the opks are still faint, which is unlike my usual cycles. Who knows, maybe the egg is holding out for Maui afterall. 3 more days until we leave, and it can't come soon enough!

Kara, best of luck to you as you start the IVF protocol. So exciting!

Sending much love to all of you.
January 26, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSarah N.
I got a BFN today so whatever the shadow was, it wasn't a baby. Just an unlucky using of a faulty test I guess.

Going to ring my gynae today and ask to bring forward my appt.
January 26, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMerry
Sounds like a good plan, Merry. I'm sorry about the bfn and especially sorry that you had a faulty test to mess with your mind - that is one of those unfair-upon-unfair moments that I really wish we somehow had immunity from.
January 26, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSarah N.
Hey Sarah N- my RE is from a slightly different school of thought. He only believes progesterone is effective when started before implantation. He begins it at 4dpo and continues to 12-13dpo depending on patient's preference. I have used for several years in my cycles and have never experienced any side effects (the one exception being some acne). It does have a lovely discharge but you get used to it after the first day or two.
Good luck...

Sorry Merry....
January 26, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLeslie
My gynae says the same - 4dpo so you build up a nice lining ready for implantation.
January 26, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMerry
I'm sorry for the negatives.

I am now on day 33. I have a tiny bit of hope that I *might* be pregnant. Either that or my cycle is seriously f'd. I should probably stop torturing myself and just take the stupid test. And yes, I will feel like a really big jerk for joining the ttc group if I turn out to be lucky enough to get a positive in my first cycle trying. I'm not sure if I should even be posting because it might be hurtful. If so, I'm sorry.

Cheryl, any news? I am still holding out hope for you. Kara, I also like your quote and I wish you success with IVF. Sarah, I hope you are able to enjoy your trip to Maui and that the progesterone works for you. Good luck to everyone else.
January 26, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJill S.
14 dpo and I called today to make sure it'd be okay to discontinue the progesterone supplements. Hopefully my period returns quickly and these additional hormones haven't screwed things up worse than they were before.

Sending everyone much love and luck. I'm going to try very hard this month and moving forward to focus on the positive things about my life. Not because I don't desperately want another child, but because trying at this pace (and failing) is way too hard on my heart.

xo
m
January 27, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterM
My gynae has moved my appt forward to 10/2 - I should be something like ovulating then and really hoping she'll do a scan to see what's going on in there. Wondering how to break it to dh that it will have to be a sperm sample before clomid. Argh.

My daughter has just brought me a little blue playmobil baby to have on my desk "His name is Fred, short for Freddie" she said - and ran off.
January 27, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMerry
Oh Merry, that is so sweet, your daughter bringing you Fred...it makes my heart burst a little.

Jill S, I am holding out great hope for you, and wondering how in the heck you are managing not to test!!!!

So, here we go again with superstitions and "signs" - we leave for Maui tomorrow, I ovulated today, and we've really given it the old college try this cycle. We will be on Maui for my two week wait, and the day I will test (if I make it that far, which I assume I will since I'll be on progesterone this cycle so I would doubt my LP would fall super short this cycle) is my husband's 40th birthday. (I would wait to test, but since I'll be doing progesterone, I'll want to stop for a bfn so that I can "reboot" the cycle and 12dpo seems like the right day to do that, right?) Hubby reassures me that it won't "ruin" his birthday if test is negative, I am doing my best to reassure him (and myself) that I won't ruin his birthday with a whole lot of doom and gloom if the test is negative....

Last year, we celebrated his 39th with our first scan of Otis (I think it was around 10 weeks), and we raced to my mom's house to tell her the good news...I can't help but feel like we're really "supposed" to get a bfp that day this year...and then I also feel like it's just "too good to be true" and of course it would NEVER line up like that so I might as well abandon hope now.

At least this cycle our efforts to try for conception were a lot less businesslike and a lot more fun - made me actually feel like it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we had to spend another month trying, believe it or not.
January 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSarah N.
Oh I really like this thread, I also think "ouch" when I read the new week posts, I hate that I feel jealous of the pregnant women here, I shouldn't, they deserve it so much... Should we have a New week for TTC?

I'm sorry M and Merry, I hate bfn's

I'm cd12, usually ov around cd17 so am hopeful as always at this point in my cycle. Doing acu for the first time this month, I hate it but will try anything! Switched to digital OPKs to have a clearer idea. Temping aswell.

Does anyone have any opinions about pre-seed - am a little worried about using it.

Thanks ladies and here's hoping .....

ak (formerly Oct2010)
January 28, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterak
Good luck Sarah N

ak- I have used pre-seed for a few years.. it is a great product. What causes you to be worried about it?
January 28, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterLeslie
Hi Leslie,
Thanks for your response and I am glad to hear you are happy with it. I haven't spoken to a Dr about preseed and given all lubes (except for Preseed) are not sperm friendly I'm am just a little worried about. I worry about everything these days though. I know it markets itself as being suitable/helpful for TTC but I am a little nervous. If there is even a tiny chance that it might work against me I don't want to use it so I suppose thats what I'm worried about. I do need it though so I will be using it this cycle.
(Super blog by the way!)

Good luck everyone, fingers crossed, I cant wait to log on here and see a BFN, it will give me hope...
January 29, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterak
ak, i hope i'm not intruding when i pop in here to say that before i got pregnant, i resented everyone who was, even on here. don't worry about it or feel guilty. i think we all understand. i still hate that there are other people who have been trying longer than me who still aren't there. it doesn't seem fair.

wishing you all luck, and hoping i haven't upset anyone by posting in this thread - if i have please do accept my abject apologies xx
January 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterB
I never made it for my quantitative HCG. Aunt Flow came for her monthly visit. I guess that means one last month of trying...Please God. Have mercy.
January 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCheryl
B, no need for apologies, I don't like things that are exclusive. I feel very conflicted and confused about others pregnancies. Thank you for your kind words...

Jill S - any news?
Sarah N- have a wonderful time in Maui
Cheryl - best of luck this cycle
Elizabeths ma - I'm sorry you for your loss but am glad you have found this wonderful place, my son died 5 months ago also
Kara - I want a baby to take home, I don't know will I ever be ready but I know what I want, I'm terrified it will never happen
super thread eliza

(clearly I meant BFP in my post above! bfps on this thread will give me hope...)
January 29, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterak
Kara- I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your daughter Josie - good luck with this round of IVF starting soon. I'm going to be googling Royal Jelly and bee pollen; thank you for the tip on that, I'd never heard of them before. The quote is also great and shows great optimism; thank you.

Sarah- I'm hoping the the getaway is is recharging your solar batteries, my fingers are crossed for the BFP - you too Leslie!

M- I'm sorry about the loss of your daughter and have all those thoughts about secondary infertility/post-loss infertility - should we not be owed a free pass this one?! I hope AF is on time and good luck for cycle 8.

Merry- I am sorry for your negative, sorry too that you are here after Freddie - it is not greedy to want a rainbow baby! I hope your appointment with the gynae on the 10th offers greater hope.

Cheryl- I am so sorry for your negative, my heart goes out to you and hope there is the best birthday present just waiting for you.

Jill S- fingers are firmly crossed; I would like to know if you were lucky on your first month of trying for your rainbow - resume some hope that the world isn't entirely fucked up.... Please?

ak- I'm sorry to hear about your son also - August was meant to be such a fantastic month!
I am new to using pre-seed and do so when my CM isn't abundant, it can't hurt and may help - I seem to be clutching at a lot of different things.

AFM- I'm on CD8 and I'm heading towards an earlier OV rather than later - I'll not be caught out like last cycle again and OVing on CD10 without me knowing about it!
Wishing everyone luck and good news
January 29, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterElizabeth's Ma
Hi everyone, thanks for being so supportive. As of this morning, "pregnant." I was pretty sure by this point that it was going to be positive (breast tenderness, heartburn, gagging on my toothbrush), but my hand was shaking so badly I could barely hold the stick. I will get a blood test tomorrow am to check levels. Please let this be a viable pregnancy. I am trying to allow myself to be happy, at least for today, before I start worrying about everything that can go wrong.

I will share my conception tip, even though I think it's completely silly and I'm embarrassed to admit I did this. I found an article a while back about yoga poses for fertility and conception. The author suggested holding headstand for two minutes after sex. So yes, every time the entire "fertile" week I jumped up and did a headstand at the foot of the bed immediately afterward. I never made it the entire two minutes because I would start laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. But this morning the first thing my husband said was, "It must have been the headstands."

I'm so sorry for the negatives and I really, really, really hope for everyone here to get their bfps SOON. I hate that ttc can be so stressful and frustrating and disheartening. It's so unfair.
January 30, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJill S.
I'm so happy for you Jill, I hope you find the days ahead are easy and not always filled with worry - mostly I hope this pregnancy ends with a live, healthy and happy baby for you to take home. Good luck baby.

Thank you for your tip, I must admit that I tried that headstands for the first few months to no avail - makes me laugh that others are being just as silly!!
Much Love ~ Tess
January 30, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterElizabeth's Ma
oh jill s, how wonderful, huge huge congratulations,
headstands all the way for me this week....
January 30, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterak